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1. on December 12, 2009 at 4:35 pm | Reply MikeN

   [inflammatory]

   
   
2. on December 12, 2009 at 5:42 pm | Reply Stephen Berg

   Nice! Well done, Peter! Thanks for the link, Kate!

   
   
3. on December 13, 2009 at 4:17 am | Reply Tony O'Brien

   Business students are taught to regard E mails in the same manner as ordinary mail; to be careful in what you say because one day it will be held against you. Scientists are not, they use E mails as ordinary conversation.

   I guess that will now change.

   After trawling through more than ten years of E mails they found very little. Still using cherry picking and taking things right out of context as they always do, they made things sound bad for a few minutes.

   Man caused global warming challenges their whole philosophy, expect them to get more desperate.

   
   
4. on December 13, 2009 at 7:08 pm | Reply Brian D

   Tony O’Brien:

   After trawling through more than ten years of E mails they found very little. Still using cherry picking and taking things right out of context as they always do, they made things sound bad for a few minutes.

   Emphasis mine, to draw attention to this little incident with Stephen McIntyre. He literally made one quote sound bad by hiding three subject-changing sentences from one mail behind an ellipsis. (Not the record in ellipsis-fu, but a masterfully placed deception nonetheless.)

   Richard Littlemore said it best:

   Much has been written about how inappropriate it was for scientists to be withholding data, but consider this: McIntyre was one of the people from whom they were trying to withhold. Presumably they feared that he would act irresponsibly, cutting, pasting and generally misrepresenting their findings to undermine faith in their conclusions.

   You can see here, clearly, where they would get that impression.

   
   
5. on December 13, 2009 at 7:55 pm | Reply Bud

   “Leading Republican intellectuals…”. Meow, Peter!

   Funny though.

   
   
6. on December 14, 2009 at 4:44 am | Reply Martin Vermeer

   > I guess that will now change.

   Yep. That will perhaps be the worst fall-out of this for climatology: email being rendered less useful for scientific co-operation by eliminating the element of candour. And undoubtedly by design.

   Stefan Rahmstorf writes in his researcher diary for 8.12 about the joint paper with me that had appeared just the day before:

   So begann eine Korrespondenz mit dem mir bis dato unbekannten Kollegen, die inzwischen auf über tausend Mails angewachsen ist, und die letztlich in der gestern erschienenen Studie mündete.

   A thousand emails! And we’ve never met. I just know for a fact that our paper wouldn’t have gone anywhere if the both of us had had to constantly look over our shoulders while writing these mails. Can you say ‘chilling effects’?

   
   
7. on December 14, 2009 at 12:22 pm | Reply Glen Raphael

   [citations needed]

   
   
8. on December 15, 2009 at 1:45 am | Reply Glen Raphael

   [inflammatory]

   
   
9. on December 15, 2009 at 8:19 pm | Reply Scott A. Mandia

   John Stewart’s Daily Show tackles the “debate”. Very funny as usual.

   http://www.thedailyshow.com/full-episodes/257989/mon-december-14-2009-sigourney-weaver

   
   
10. on December 16, 2009 at 1:27 am | Reply Brian D

    As ClimateSight is a Canadian blog, videos from TheDailyShow.com (and ColbertNation.com) are unavailable. For us Canucks, we’ve got the option of digging through the grotesquely-designed TheComedyNetwork.ca site, or cheating a bit using headers.

    If you’re running Firefox, install this add-on. Once it’s installed, go Tools | Modify Headers, selecting “Add” from the drop-down. Enter “X-Forwarded-For” in the first box, “12.13.14.15″ in the second, and leave the third box blank. Save, then go into the configuration and check “Always on.” This will allow videos from those sites and a handful of others to ignore region-specific blocking – it’s not universal (for instance, I haven’t figured out how to bypass restrictions on PBS.org, which has several documentaries I’ve been trying to see available online but restricted to US viewers) but it will work for Viacom sites.

    (I haven’t yet found a Chrome add-on for the same effect, sorry. And if you’re using Internet Explorer, get another browser.)

    
    
11. on January 11, 2010 at 4:36 pm | Reply Micahael Meltzer

    [inflammatory]